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« Reply #1815 on: June 29, 2011, 01:45:32 PM »
Hi Phil,Dek,& Blane,and all, as we are in conversation of photos and the reference to them I can only assumed that the photo that Dek posted on page 164 post 1801 is sightly over expose as the sky shows no clouds and the walls of the new buildings are wash out I personally think it is the same shot as the one that Phil posted on page 165 post 1811 but has been cropped, as for Phil's photo I think the photographer has done what we would call drop down an F-stop to make the picture darker as you can see the clouds on the sky line.having been a semi professional photographer myself in my time of youth, photographers always take two or more shots of the same subject with different setting on the camera and then pick out the best one for the purpose of the assignment.I don't think the photographer would have the time to change the lens from one focal length to another for as Phil pointed out the car coming up gt Francis st/little hall road has only moved a few yards that's assuming it is the same car as it is hard to make out.
as for referencing and cataloging and naming dates etc of photos in books and on other sites I am posting two examples of the same subject from the same web site.the first states it was taken in 1950 which I think is the right year, the second states it taken 1959! I think those bill posters has lasted well for nine years,I would have though that by 1959 a new road or block of flats would have been in place by then? if you look at the first picture you can not make out to names on the road sign to the other districts, in the second picture you can, also the name as the subject is a pub, The lamp tavern on the old Vauxhall road the first pic is named the camp tavern? the second pic is named correctly I think? the lamp tavern but taken 1959!
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« Reply #1816 on: June 29, 2011, 02:04:02 PM »
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I think you are right on all counts, the Melvina Rd flats and The Lamp Tavern Vauxhall rd.
 
On Carl Chinn's site Birmingham Lives the date is claimed as 1959, but like you I think it is 1950. To be quite honest I have no memory of it or the sweet shop next door and in 1959 and earlier I played in the black patch park next door on a regular basis. I'm certain I would have remembered a sweet shop local.
 
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« Reply #1817 on: June 29, 2011, 04:18:54 PM »
Phil the Lamp Tavern and the Shop were between Northumberland St  and Chickerly St opposite the Dairy I don,t know if it was there in 1959 but it was there in 1956 as me and my scally brothers helped them with the demolishing by removing all the lead pipping I would have been 13 at the time.Dek

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« Reply #1818 on: June 29, 2011, 04:37:28 PM »
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I think you are getting mixed up with the Globe. The Lamp Tavern was at 23-25 Vauxhall Rd on the same side as the Co op Dairy. It was quite close to St James Place. It was flanked on either side by two shops owned by a Miss Susan Robinson, she obviously sold out the one and kept the confectioners.
 
In the 1950's Kelly's there is no mention of the Lamp Tavern, although there is mention of Miss Robinson Confectioner and Birchfield Upholstery. This to my mind confirms the date of the photo.
 
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« Reply #1819 on: June 29, 2011, 06:23:05 PM »
Yes Phil sorry on reflection it was probably The  ex outdoor on the corner of Chickerly St. we went in and out of most of the empty buildings at that time Dek

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« Reply #1820 on: June 29, 2011, 07:21:49 PM »
Phil, Dek, there is one thing that is puzzling me with the photo of the lamp tavern, is the two old road signs on the striped polls one looks like the old red triangle warning possably a T junction ahead on the left hand side of the picture and the one on the right hand side shows the direction to other districts however could this sign have been turn by accident at some time or is it facing a junction? at the back of the photographer
 
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« Reply #1821 on: June 29, 2011, 07:47:14 PM »
Pudding the junction that is just out of shot would be Lawley St although I can,t make out all the names on the sign post to the left is Small Heath---Moseley and to the right Aston----Perry Barr so I would think the sign post is just past the park but before Lawford St there is now a garage there. Dek

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« Reply #1822 on: June 29, 2011, 08:48:29 PM »
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The warning sign would have been for the junction ahead at Lawley St - Curzon St.
 
The direction sign looks as it has been turned right angles to what it should be. Left would be Small Heath etc down the hill at Lawley St and right Aston etc up the hill at Lawley St.
 
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« Reply #1823 on: June 29, 2011, 09:06:44 PM »
Dek,Phil, thank you for giving me the where about on Vauxhall road, as I see it the photographer has his/her back to Windsor street and the ashted estate and the next pub is the white tower on the opposite corner which is still there or was the last time I was down that way
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« Reply #1824 on: June 30, 2011, 03:13:17 PM »
 :) hi peter brummy, going through the pages on the site and came to 112 where you give some names of people that i know very well. Your a bit older that me but around the same ages of my bothers and sisters.My one brother ian is good friends with donna, my eldest brother alan went to school with gary crawford, his father and mine were drinking pals in the thomb thumb.Iwas friends with danny kelly's daughter karen.We lived at 16 howford grove for 22 years.  Afamily jayne memtioned cusaks also lived 3 doors away after moving from dollmun st,terry harold was married to the eldest girl margrett.

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« Reply #1825 on: June 30, 2011, 03:20:40 PM »
Hi ronaldjoseph.
 
I'm afraid peter brummy no longer posts to this forum. If the family you mention called Cusak had a daughter called Carol then I dated her for a very short while in the early 60's.
 
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