I would be about 10 years old I guess, and my Granddad used to take me down the market, where he was a bit of a character. He used to stop and talk to ANDY CARRIER lady. Now, I never did ask him, but Granddad was a Romany Gypsy, or from Romany stock (Black Patch) and I am just wondering if she was also Romany? Jack used to box in a booth at The Onion Fair, for Pat Collins senior. He knew everyone in the old Rag Market. He lived in a long wooden bungalow (a long shed really) in Glenavon Road, Kings Heath. That would be in 1950.