Phil and Roy,
Without doubt, Jill will have a rough working knowledge of what it means for a woman to know her dutiful, obedient place in the home. So let's give her chance on the forum, and show her some of the unwritten but nevertheless treasured and rigorously adhered to, let us not say ''rules'' rather ''values''. I'll try to set her faltering feet in the right direction with: It's a man thing - doing it right, first time, on time everytime, and underbudget. Phil is well able to illustrate this with his maps and diagrams of male and female shopping trips......
