Brumdave, All these facts are so true, even though we live miles apart a very similar thing is taking place here in Brum, but I must just say it hasn't reached the point of people actually "roughing it"(I say this as I haven't witnessed it myself) but its my belief that situation could be just around the corner, my OWN DAUGHTER is finding it impossible, yes impossible to get a council property and she was actually advised to "look elsewhere" its all just so wrong and unfair, so obviously when I actually see "outsiders" moving into council properties it makes my blood boil, so of course I object when others suggest that these visitors head for Erdington, unless you actually live here you can't see it happening, its not actually advertised in the daily papers and as I'm sure you remember, living in a different ward of Brum can be like living in a different town, I live with these facts day in day out and I'm NOT in the habit of lying,
All the best, Tony.