Hi everyone thanks for the welcome , Phill i spent 3 nights reading the forum thats when i seen Billy Bouchers name on there , i hope so much that there are people who remember my Dad"s family and as i said i wasn"t born around the area , i was born in Harborne , we then moved to Tower Rd Aston 1/89 , then when they demolished the houses we where moved to Stechford . But despite all this we had lots visits to Nechells as kids , my Dad worked at Smiths forgeings in Wainwright st and had his own seat in the pub on the corner but for the life i cannot remember the name off it !