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roy one

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Re: CHARACTERS IN THE BULLRING
« Reply #143 on: August 28, 2009, 01:21:58 PM »
In 1997, the United Kingdom Government established a new prison ship, HMP Weare, as a temporary measure to ease prison overcrowding. Weare was docked at the disused Royal Navy dockyard at Portland, Dorset. On 9 March 2005 it was announced that the Weare was to close. Since then, the government has advertised for a contractor to supply 800 prison ship spaces to alleviate overcrowding.

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« Reply #144 on: August 28, 2009, 01:47:33 PM »
you boys are really great with all the facts that you come up with.
keep em coming.

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Re: CHARACTERS IN THE BULLRING
« Reply #145 on: August 28, 2009, 04:37:00 PM »
phil
i believe the vanguard was used as a overspill for the then hms victory (now nelson).
and she would have been in commission, and that is why steve saw a paying off
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Sailor, checked her out, Vanguard was paid off August 1960. Checked all the Battleships and am about to go through the battle cruisers. Yes, she was used as a TS. (Wikepedia) Cheers Mate.
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Re: CHARACTERS IN THE BULLRING
« Reply #146 on: August 28, 2009, 04:37:56 PM »
steve and sailor,

The info I got about her is that HMS Vanguard was used in training exercises with NATO forces in the 1950s and was put into reserve in 1955. She was decommissioned and broken up in 1960.

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Re: CHARACTERS IN THE BULLRING
« Reply #147 on: August 28, 2009, 04:53:23 PM »
On 1 Jul, 1942, the City of Birmingham (Master Lewis P. Borum) was en route to Bermuda at 11 knots about 250 miles east of Cape Hatteras, escorted by the USS Stansbury DMS 8, which took station a mile distant. At 01.27 hours, just after the escort ship had signaled by flags and blinkers for a change of course, two torpedoes from U-202 hit the City of Birmingham in quick succession on the port side and another was seen passing ahead of the ship. The first torpedo struck about 100 feet abaft the bow in the #1 hatch and the second under the bridge. The second hit caused all the sections in the forward part of the ship to flood. She quickly listed 45° to port and sank within five minutes. Most of the ten officers, 103 crewmen, five armed guards (the ship was armed with one 4in and two .30cal guns) and 263 passengers on board abandoned ship in an orderly fashion in five lifeboats, five rafts and seven floats. The armed guards left last and jumped into the water. The survivors were picked up by the USS Stansbury DMS 8 within two hours after she had dropped depth charges to chase away the U-boat. Five crewmen, one stewardess and two passengers were lost and one of the crew later died on board the escort.
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Re: CHARACTERS IN THE BULLRING
« Reply #148 on: August 28, 2009, 05:02:58 PM »
As a lad, I went on day trip with granddad and we saw Vanguard. about 48-50,   He (an ex WWI soldier) was so pleased and proud to point her out as she sailed by.    Vanguard was used in training exercises with NATO forces in the 1950s and was put into reserve in 1955. She was broken up in 1960.

I'm certain that neither he nor I would have believed that we were both having our first and last sight of the Royal Navy's newest but last ever battleship...

...those were the days my friends....

I went into Faslane many years back and the weapons storage in the glens nearby  - and  been out in a sub, but nothing could ever equal a real capital ship - nearest I got was HMS Hampshire and its depthcharge ''chucker''........a couple of nights on (moored)Foudroyant were good fun too.

The US (pre Iraq) used to have a massive ''phantom'' reserve fleet at anchor  in SF/Oakland Bay - there were some big boats in that!!  Go to Honolulu, Pearl Harbor, and see the oil still seeping up from the Arizona - ther're still over 600 men inside her

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Re: CHARACTERS IN THE BULLRING
« Reply #149 on: August 28, 2009, 05:09:50 PM »
Roy said,

......the government has advertised for a contractor to supply 800 prison ship spaces to alleviate overcrowding.

Can they all have quick-release drain plugs please ::)...

or maybe something co-ordinated with flushing the heads.........next please, are you sitting comfy......good......

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« Reply #150 on: August 28, 2009, 05:18:04 PM »
The only large warship that fits my bill was the HMS Kenya, Light cruiser, 13,500 tons. Her history describes her as leaving Pompey 24 July 1962, paying off pennant flying, having been sold to BISCO for scrap.
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Re: CHARACTERS IN THE BULLRING
« Reply #151 on: August 28, 2009, 05:21:40 PM »
Suggestion. Prison ship for nonces, scrap submarine. Once overcrowded, Tow out to deep sea and scuttle.
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Re: CHARACTERS IN THE BULLRING
« Reply #152 on: August 28, 2009, 05:26:40 PM »
Dec 1940 - In December 1940 HMS Kenya was deployed as a unit of the Covering Forces to the North Atlantic convoys.
From Light cruiser HMS Kenya of the Fiji class - Allied Warships of WWII - uboat … - Related web pages
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 1941 May 1941 - HMS Kenya Joined the Home fleet and served in convoy protection in the Atlantic. In May 1941 while serving with the 2nsd Cruiser squadron. HMS Kenya was involved in the Hunt for the German battleship Bismarck.
From HMS Kenya - Related web pages
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 1942 Aug 1942 - August 1942 on HMS Kenya participated in vital convoy to take supplies to Malta where many ships were lost and only one tanker, the Ohio, made it to Malta and Kenya was torpedoed by a U-Boat and had to limp safely to Gibraltar.


 1950 Sep 20, 1950 - Although the Marines have advanced well beyond the effective range of naval gun fire support the USS Toledo, HMS Jamaica and HMS Kenya, covered by planes of the HMS Triumph, conducted successful interdiction fire throughout the day and supplied star shell ...
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 1951 May 6, 1951 - The British cruiser HMS Kenya joined the USS Toledo standing by to give naval artillery support near Inchon. Minesweeping operations continued off both coasts. United States Marine and British Navy airmen flew limited sorties from the US S, and HMS Glory becaus a of ...
From Official Reports of the Day's Operations in Korea; UN TROOPS … - Related web pages
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Re: CHARACTERS IN THE BULLRING
« Reply #153 on: August 28, 2009, 08:13:35 PM »
After all this:

Can we have a ship in the Bull Ring please?


 

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