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wakadowakado

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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2010, 04:49:24 PM »
Thank you Vince for the interesting details of Bedworth's Villa input it is exactly what I hoped the thread would attract. Pete I love the period layout of the team. reminds me of
the way the teams were printed out in days gone by (where have all our inside rights gone
e.g. Tommy Thompson and the like? ). Back to the first F.A. Cup Final success campaign The
important strategy on Semi Final day at Crewe when the Villa met Glasgow Rangers was to
use two full backs on the day a lesson they had learnt from a beating by their opponents
in 1882. The Scots were virtually an International  team so it was a considerable achievement
The stage was set for the Final at Kennington Oval against the favourites no less than a
team known as West Bromwich Albion- you must of heard of them !. It was Villa's 50th
match of the season in Queen Victoria's Jubilee year.  Result 02041887 - AV 2  WBA  0
Denis Hodgetts put Villa one up and Roberts the famous Albion keeper who played in
cricket flannels made no attempt to save it ! Archie Hunter clinched the win adding a second. Great crowds welcomed back their heroes at 3 o'clock on Sunday morning. Later the group were photographed with three trophies the 'tin idol' weighed 19oz, the Brum
cup weighed 25oz both were dwarfed by the handsome large Birmingham Charity cup at
yes 250 oz ! Just to show it was no [censored] Team:  Warner;Coulton and Simmonds; Yates,
Dawson and Burton: Davis, Brown,  Andy Hunter, Vaughton and Hodgetts beat the
Scottish Cup winners 3- 0 the following Saturday Link up soon Wakavilla

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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2010, 07:11:48 PM »
As you can imagine the club and players were full of confidence and began season 1887/8
by winning the first three cup games without conceding a goal. Then Villa crashed out by 3-1
to Preston North End known as the 'Invincibles' before your modern day Arsenal tagged the
description! recently. A  record  crowd of 27,000 got out of hand- mounted police were
sent to keep order  accompanied by the Hussars fron Gt Brook St barracks !The next part
of the story deals with the foundation of the World's first Football League by Mr William
McGregor who had a drapery business in Birmingham. So the next time your banter fires
up remind your friend who was the Grand father of the League and a devoted Aston
Villa administrator- Mac  Link up soon Wakavilla

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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2010, 07:09:54 PM »
The business minded Scot had canvassed for two years to establish interest to establish a
set fixture list to form a League. He achieved his aim on 17041888 when officials from 12
clubs agreed to participate at the beginning of September 1888. Sheffield Wednesday were not impressed and were excluded. Villa's first season was excellent finishing runner's up to
the all concquering Preston who did the 'double  Our lads were the only side to take a point from them. W12 D5 l5 GF61 GA43 Pts29. A couple of poor seasons  followed until a new clever surveyor came on the scene . His name Mr F.W. Rinder who was born in Liverpool and
was egaged as a professional in the Birmingham City's surveyor's office.  'F.w.R.' put the clubs methods into order and there was a dramatic improvement in the Club's progress. Link up
soon and I will relate what happened  Wakavilla

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« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2010, 05:50:15 PM »
Mr Rinder spent 10 years at the club from 1881 and suspected that ticket selling was not
in the interests of the Club. A famous Barwick Street meeting took place and the committee
resigned en bloc. He did not libel the gatemen but installed new turnstiles and the gate
receipts moved from 75 to 250 ! He guided the Villa to their most successful decade in
the history of the Club i.e League champions 5 times, F.A. Cup winners twice and losing
finalists once -who to? yes 'The Baggies'  A great era had dawned. Will it ever happen again !. The next post will cover the glory with salient points Link up soon Wakavilla

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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2010, 04:22:27 PM »
Villa's second Cup Final appearance in 1892 was the last to be staged at the Oval cricket ground. They beat the Albion in both League games but the shooting boots were left behind as they were soundly beaten 3-0. The magic name of John Devey arrived around this time and captained the team from 1893 to 1901 in these glory years. He was no mean
cricketer and played at the highest level for Warwickshire. League champions in 1894 and
won the cup in 1895 The club seemed to like playing at Crystal Palace and eventually were
finalists and winners four times. Famous names began to join the ranks and John Reynolds
represented both Ireland and England in Internationals. The famous theft of the 'tin idol'
occurred next season. The trophy was first played for in 1871/2 season and only 15
clubs entered Some unusual names: e.g. Barnes, Hitchin, Donington School, Reigate
Priory, Marlow, Wanderers, Civil Service and the like. Wanderers won the Final before 1,000 spectators

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« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2010, 06:40:51 PM »
It can be safely stated that the season of the club's achievements in 1896/7 was a pinnacle
The 'double' was celebrated and Villa left the old Perry Barr ground to open their account
at the location we use today. It was certainly a class side with the arrivals of James Crabtree and Charlie Athersmith who won every top honour in the domestic season and
three International caps too. Charlie joined Villa from Unity Gas Depot in 1891. It is  a legend
that he played one match at outside right with an umbrella held aloft!. The classic Cup Final
was won by the club over Everton 3-2 Desribed as an 'Olympian struggle' by Lord Rosebery
the eminent Liberal statesman. A word of praise to Joe Grierson who trained the Villa in
six League Championships. Probably unbeatable! Pete can you find another one he
came from Middlebrough Ironopolis in 1893

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« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2010, 05:22:59 PM »
The one salient part of the magnificent 'double season worth a mention is the bad luck
of Dennis Hodgetts who had beeen transferred to Small Heath as captain and miss all the glory ! Dennis had joined the club in 1886 from St George's F.C. and featured in the Perry
Barr successes but missed out on the big one. He kept a close association with the club
all his life. His son was a crack cyclist and Hodgetts Snr played Billiards and bowls till his
death in 1945

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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2011, 03:59:14 PM »
Waka
Great draw today starting to get the spirit back mate
was the ref getting bribed by chelsea 7 yellow cards
what a dealer

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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2011, 02:41:20 PM »
I saw it on Sky - Too soon to make wholesale changes. The experience counts Pete. As you
say the referee did not let it flow. Clarke looks like he has a bright future and when the
young Albrighton is fully fit we should not be courting relegation. Link up soon with some
more history soon Wakarchavistc

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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2011, 05:02:41 PM »
Waka
at least they have found there fighting spirit
a win against sunderland will be the icing

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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2011, 05:58:14 PM »
Pete my forecast for tonight: AV 2  SD  1

Aston Villa opened the present ground on Easter Saturday 17041897 Blackburn were the
opponents and took a beating 3-0 . The new enclosure was unfinished and it rained all day!
The accommodation housed 50,0000 people. As the number one club of the period the Club
lost only three games in the first three seasons!. The man who has a record for eternity
was John Campbell a Scot scoring the first goal at the Lower grounds Aston. I personally
have a part in the Club's history by way of designing a pair of mugs to commemorate the Centenary, sold at the shop, each one bearing the different dates 17041897 and 17041997 there will be a few around Aston with the fans! So that is my part that is
small but important to me Link up soon Wakarchavist