Hi Mogmeister - I met Joan once,we were getting off the No.11 bus and she was laden down with shopping,she was carrying a bag of onions under one arm and several shopping bags in the other.I carried the large orange coloured bag of onions down to her house.She was a very tall strong girl,the weight of that bag nearly nearly corpsed me.Her mother still lives there and I see now and again going to the local shops.