Hi"Mother Goose, that brings back memories, the double zero's we where not as bad as people made us out tobe, ok we where the men, we did manly things, we raced up and down the Smallbrook ringway, stop by the police so oftern they knew us by our first names, the snake bar across the road from a large hotel, ( forgot the name, its been so long ago,) I was becak in the UK some years ago, and passed the place where we used to met, but they built a bloody large block of offices there now, so nothing was left, the only time we could race with out the police stopping us was when we carried blood from one hospital to another, we almost had a police escort..yepe.. happy days, ( I belive Dave coilier, became a cannon of the Church later)...J2