Andy Capp,
I notice earlier in this thread you mention a pub crawl, did you ever try this one. Start at the New Inns top of Edward Rd and call at every pub along Moseley Rd, down Bradford St and along Digbeth in to the Bull ring, calling at every pub on the way. When we were kids we started by having a half in every pub and we never got halfway down Bradford St. I heard tell of some who finished the crawl and had a pint in each pub.
Phil