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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2013, 11:57:34 AM »
The first railway station to open in Birmingham was Vauxhall station, which opened in 1837 as a temporary railway shed. It served as the temporary Birmingham terminus of the Grand Junction Railway from Warrington. Curzon Street railway station opened in 1838 as the permanent terminus in the city and Vauxhall became a goods-only station until it was rebuilt and opened in 1869 under the LNWR. The Curzon Street station remains today in its original form, designed by Philip Hardwick, mirroring his design of the Euston Arch at the London terminus of the railway line. It is Grade I listed and is the world's oldest surviving piece of monumental railway architecture. It closed to all railway traffic in 1966.[1]Birmingham New Street station.New Street station opened in 1854, and Curzon Street station fell out of passenger use, running only holiday excursions for the public. New Street helped by becoming a hub for railway lines, easing connections between them. Despite this, an extension of New Street station was required in the 1880s so that trains no longer needed to use Camp Hill Goods station[2] which opened in 1840.[3] As of 2012 New Street station is subject to extensive modernisation and refurbishment.The original Snow Hill station.Snow Hill station was the next major station to open in Birmingham, opening in 1852 as Livery Street station. It connected London (Paddington)
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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2013, 02:17:33 PM »
One for the lads from Balsall Heath, espcially those that went to Dennis Rd school.
 
Did you know that the small park that was opposite the school, and  also had entrances in Taunton Rd, one being on the corner of Ladypool Rd and Taunton Rd, was originally a small lake, before being filled in at the end of the 19th centuary, and being made into a park.  Hence the ladypool Rd was named after the small lake,  which was called Ladypool.
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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2013, 02:29:01 PM »
The Battle of Camp Hill (or the Battle of Birmingham) took place in and around Camp Hill, during the First English Civil War, on Easter Monday, 3 April 1643, when a company of Parliamentarians from the Lichfield garrison with the support of some of the local townsmen, in all about 300 men, attempted to stop a detachment of Royalists, of about 1200 cavalry and dragoons and 600 to 700 foot, under the command of Prince Rupert from passing through the unfortified parliamentary town of Birmingham.
The Parliamentarians put up a surprisingly stout resistance, and according to the Royalists shot at them from houses as they drove the small Parliamentary force from the town and back towards Lichfield from whence they came. To suppress the musket fire, the Royalists torched the houses from which the shooting was thought to come. After the battle the Royalists spent the rest of the day in the town during which time they pillaged it. The next morning after the main body of the Royalist force had left town, many more houses were put to the torch. While pillaging and firing an unfortified town in retaliation for resistance was common at that time on Continental Europe it was not usual in England and this handed the Parliamentary side a propaganda weapon which they used to disparage the Royalists.
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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2013, 02:47:04 PM »
Regarding the 'Battle of Camp Hill'. The Royalists tried to re -arm during their stay at Camp Hill and tried locally to purchase  Shot  and powder Swords etc from local suppliers.As the local suppliers tended to be supporters of Cromwell and the Roundheads they were  refused supplies. So next time next time time you run out of Ammo on Camp Hill make sure you are a Roundhead.
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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2013, 10:01:44 PM »
Fought many a battle with them,there roundheads on Camp Hill.
There were thousands of e'm. They would come in endless numbers out of that there  Grammer school. King Edward v1 ;D .
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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2013, 10:36:13 AM »
       the birthplace of the balti was birminghamThe Balti Triangle is an area of Balti houses clustered along Ladypool Road, Stoney Lane and Stratford Road, to the south of Birmingham city centre. It covers parts of Sparkbrook, Sparkhill and Balsall Heath.
This area probably contains Birmingham's highest concentration of balti restaurants, as well as some of the oldest to be found in Britain. Birmingham is popularly believed to be the birthplace of the Balti curry [1]
 
 
Balti cuisine became known throughout the UK during the 1990s, after initial growth in Birmingham since the 1980s. One school of thought states that name 'Balti' for food may reflect the fact that an ethnic group living in the Baltistan region of northern Pakistan are called Balti.
Alternatively, 'Balti' food is named after the pot in which it is cooked. That origin of the word is to do with the Urdu and Hindi word Balty, which means "bucket."[2] As mentioned in the late nineteenth century in Hobson-Jobson, the term 'balti' refers to the steel or iron pot in which the food is cooked or served, taken from the word 'balti', which is derived from the Portuguese word 'balde', meaning bucket/pail, which was taken to the Indian subcontinent by the Portuguese on their seafaring enterprises in late fifteenth century. Therefore, originally, the word 'Balti' refers to a bucket, then evolving to its meaning as a cooking pot.
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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2013, 02:23:48 PM »
Curzon Street railway station opened in 1838 as the permanent terminus in the city and Vauxhall became a goods-only station until it was rebuilt and opened in 1869 under the LNWR. The Curzon Street station remains today in its original form, designed by Philip Hardwick, mirroring his design of the Euston Arch at the London terminus of the railway line. It is Grade I listed and is the world's oldest surviving piece of monumental railway architecture. It closed to all railway traffic in 1966.[1]


I worked for the Post Office sorting parcels over Christmas 1977. Most of this was at the main sorting office at Blucher St but we did take one trip out to take sacks of mail by truck to the depot at Curzon Street which had to be thrown from the back of the truck onto railway cars.
I don't know whether Curzon Street closed to all traffic in 66 but, from experience, I can say it wasn't final.

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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2013, 02:34:48 PM »
       the birthplace of the balti was birminghamThe Balti Triangle is an area of Balti houses clustered along Ladypool Road, Stoney Lane and Stratford Road, to the south of Birmingham city centre. It covers parts of Sparkbrook, Sparkhill and Balsall Heath.
This area probably contains Birmingham's highest concentration of balti restaurants, as well as some of the oldest to be found in Britain. Birmingham is popularly believed to be the birthplace of the Balti curry [1]
The OED recently listed Balsall Heath as the "Birthplace of the Balti" due to an advert from the local newspaper "The Heathan" from July 1982 for a restaurant on Ladypool Road. This was the oldest reference they could come up with where Balti related to food rather than cookware.  This advert and others that follow it refer to "Balti Meats", "Balti Chicken" and similar.

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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2013, 04:12:08 PM »
To suppress the musket fire, the Royalists torched the houses from which the shooting was thought to come. After the battle the Royalists spent the rest of the day in the town during which time they pillaged it. The next morning after the main body of the Royalist force had left town, many more houses were put to the torch. While pillaging and firing an unfortified town in retaliation for resistance was common at that time on Continental Europe it was not usual in England and this handed the Parliamentary side a propaganda weapon which they used to disparage the Royalists.
Thanks, Roy; yet another reason for Brummies to want the monarchy gone! O0
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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2013, 04:15:34 PM »
To return to the thread;--- Can you still find Bonnie Prince Charlies hide out at Stratford Place.? O0
I think it was Prince Rupert's hide-out (1643?), and it was at a pub that stood at the junction of Stratford Road and Sandy Lane (demolished to make way for the current road junction).
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Re: so you know about birmingham but did you know this
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2013, 04:40:28 PM »
The Old Joint Stock pub and theatreThe Old Joint Stock Theatre is a studio theatre located at 4 Temple Row West in the centre of Birmingham, England.
The theatre seats 95 in a flexible arrangement and is located on the first floor of the Old Joint Stock pub - a grade II listed building built as the Birmingham Joint Stock Bank by architect J. A. Chatwin in 1864 and converted into a pub in 1997.[1] The theatre opened in 2006 with the £350,000 cost being provided by the owners Fuller, Smith and Turner.[2]
The venue hosts mostly theatre and has two resident groups, The Old Joint Stock Musical Theatre Group and Foghorn Improv. It also programmes music, comedy and dance.
The theatre includes full dressing and green room facilities, a box office, cloakroom and lounge area for interval drinks, as well as a demountable stage and seating that allows each production or hire to inhabit the space to it's best potential.
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